tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post8577112532810533087..comments2023-10-11T01:10:51.843-07:00Comments on Timberlines: Reviving the Blackwing: Half the Pressure, Twice the SpeedWoodChuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17463614041405036323noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post-62665303213462996762010-09-22T14:32:59.926-07:002010-09-22T14:32:59.926-07:00I really like the idea of a contest. One of the op...I really like the idea of a contest. One of the options should be no slogan. It would be fun and add publicity (offer a gross of pencils to the winner).Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post-75403336518514801912010-09-22T13:47:26.839-07:002010-09-22T13:47:26.839-07:00@Robert: Too bad we can't get Don Draper to w...@Robert: Too bad we can't get <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Draper" rel="nofollow">Don Draper</a> to work his ad magic (albeit fictional) on this pencil. That way, we can replicate that mid-century feel as well as have a fresh, strategic slogan. (-:Andy @ Woodclinchedhttp://woodclinched.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post-5406554202862880192010-09-22T00:44:40.195-07:002010-09-22T00:44:40.195-07:00One valuable product differentiation that the Palo...One valuable product differentiation that the Palomino brand has relative to other brands is an understated, minimalist aesthetic.<br /><br />Since the aim is not to reproduce the original, it would be a bad idea to toss a cheesy slogan on, especially given the mediocre printing and typography so far shown. It would make the pencil look even more like a cheap Chinese knockoff than it already does.<br /><br />If you're going to load up the sides of the pencil with copy, it should be well-executed. Otherwise, leave it off and let the lead and eraser/ferrule compensate for the lack of barrel design.<br /><br />If this were going to be a complete reproduction, then absolutely go with the slogan. If your copy and printing/finish were strengths of your pencil design, then it would be fine to have a modern reinterpreted slogan. With the current pencil design however, the smartest thing to do is to leave it free of superfluous printing.Robert M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post-38913187244013098572010-09-22T00:25:54.608-07:002010-09-22T00:25:54.608-07:00I do not think that it is right to scrutinise the ...I do not think that it is right to scrutinise the old 602 slogan from a scientific, literal standpoint when you use slogans like "for the smoothest ride" that would not hold up to scrutiny either. "Scientifically" speaking you should apply the same measure to all your slogans then, i.e. use the old 602 slogan on the new horse.Matthiashttp://bleistift.memm.denoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post-24856228252913414742010-09-21T18:54:33.454-07:002010-09-21T18:54:33.454-07:00Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I ...Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I like "Fast as Light, Black as Night". It sounds sort of like a superhero — worthy of The Mighty Blackwing. I still am a fan of the original slogan, but this is growing on me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post-34425888539382003812010-09-21T18:20:01.912-07:002010-09-21T18:20:01.912-07:00I am anxious for this outstanding pencil to become...I am anxious for this outstanding pencil to become available for purchase. My suggestion, though, is that, if you are not going to use the original slogan, do not use one at all. Regardless of its scientific inaccuracy, the original has a lovely symmetry (3,3)and a smart play of opposites (Half vs. twice; pressure vs. speed)that the new slogans lack. Definitely stay away from "Back in Black." Anyway, is there any hope that we can start placing orders this week? I want to get down to serious work with the new Blackwing! Thanks.Adairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15148858.post-39189984124165622952010-09-21T17:23:38.681-07:002010-09-21T17:23:38.681-07:00I missed the slogan at first, but I think the new ...I missed the slogan at first, but I think the new BW is different enough to merit its own slogan. I think your idea of a contest of other joint-effort is a good one. I miss when pencils had slogans, like "bottle of ink in a pencil." :)Johnhttp://www.pencilrevolution.comnoreply@blogger.com